Skip to main content

Alcoholism chat


Photo by HJRook

More alcoholism chat - Alcoholics lack self self discipline and self esteem. They also lack rational and logical thought sometimes. Sounds harsh. It is harsh but I think it is true. And the marshmallow test supports this.

Some time ago a scientist/psychologist devised a test in which he placed a marshmallow in front of a child and said that if he/she didn't eat it while he was out of the room for a while he would let the child have a second one. He left the room.

A percentage ate it immediately. A percentage waited and ate it before he came back. Some left it and got a second one. When they grew up who do you think had a higher likelihood of becoming alcoholic? Yes the first group. The third group, the ones who abstained are the people more likely to succeed in our society. They are more rational and think long term and about the consequences of their actions. They are less impulsive. Impulsive behavior leads to problems in this world although it can help in creativity I believe.

For example if an alcoholic to be (i.e. on the road to "crossing the wire" and becoming addicted) could think through the consequences more rationally even on a simplistic level such as this is going to cause a hangover which means pain. I don't want that so I'll stop. It would put the brakes on. It takes a long time to learn to be alcoholic. There is plenty of time for rational thought and adjustment if you are the type in the first group.

We know that are characters are formed through genetic inheritance and nurture (how we are brought up). And I am convinced that the very early years of development plus genetic predispositions followed up by circumstance are the factors in making a person alcoholic. Nothing new in that though.

Bearing in mind the marshmallow test perhaps it might be possible in the future to isolate those people who are at risk of drifting into alcoholism and take proactive steps to prevent it. Alcoholism seems to gradually get into your bones so there is time to prevent it, to arrest the slide to addiction. Why aren't we using that time frame to put the brakes on?

__________________________

Jane is working OK. She is staying sober at the moment. She has the occasional little drink I think (but am I paranoiac - she never ever drinks in front of me so I have to guess). She is working OK and all is stable on that front. Only it won't last. Experience not pessimism tells me that.

Photo: published under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs creative commons License

Comments

  1. I just found other blogs you might be interested in by people like myself, and yourself, who are living with alcoholics. I put some on the bloglist on the left side of this page:
    http://sumpatheia.wordpress.com

    ReplyDelete
  2. I think it is important to e factual and alcoholics do not lack self discipline.
    Sue

    ReplyDelete
  3. Alcoholics do not lack self-discipline? I have to completely disagree with that in so many ways. If it is not self-discipline that they do not lack that prevents them from stopping at just one or giving into the temptation when they have been away from it, what is it that they lack?

    Amy

    ReplyDelete
  4. Hi thanks Amy for the comment. What I am saying is that some alcoholics lack self-discipline. Many might have self-discipline. A lack of self discipline is only one factor in becoming an alcoholic. The most important is that alcoholics often have low self esteem and are depressed. This makes life difficult. They are sometimes damaged (we all are but alcoholics perhaps more so) in some way psychologically.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Hi I would like to add to that last comment. Yes, anyone can become an alcoholic. I think you're right. But sometimes a lack of self discipline contributes plus many other factors. Today it is easy to drift into alcoholism. Some jobs are very pressured. There is a high proportion of lawyer and doctor alcoholics for example.

    Freddie

    ReplyDelete

Post a Comment

I'd like to hear the experiences of both alcoholics and the victims of alcoholics, please.

Popular posts from this blog

Alcoholism Signs For Family

If a person regularly falls asleep just after breakfast she is possibly an alcoholic. This is because she has had more than a stiff drink early in the morning. Although, alcoholism signs for the family are hard to spot in my experience. What is my experience? It's being the partner and now (2008) a "live in partner" of an alcoholic for about 9 years. Update: I am still her partner but no longer living with her in 2024 which is 16 years after this page was first written! The first section of this article is by me based on experience. The second part is by Bing's Co-pilot after researching the internet. At the end of the article are some pointers as to whether the person in question is an alcoholic. When I first met Jane I didn't know that she was an alcoholic. At that moment in time I was an innocent to the world of alcoholism. It took me about 3 months to realize that she was an alcoholic. What lead me to this revelation? When I didn't know she was an alcohol

Alcoholism and Death

photo copyright crowolf published under a creative commons license kindly granted. These 2 ignominiously go together - Alcoholism and Death . Just after Jane's mini-binge (believe me it was a very minor binge by her standards) of about 20 hours she felt, as usual, suicidal. Jane always feels huge remorse and regret after a binge. She feels bad about letting herself down and bad about messing me around (although it wasn't that bad to be honest - it did though mess up what could have been some time together, which we are lacking at the moment due to work). Jane really does genuinely feel suicidal after a binge. But I must say I don't think she'll ever do it. She hasn't got the courage - I know that sounds horrendously cruel etc etc but this blog is about the plain truth unvarnished. It takes courage to kill yourself and a lots of despair. Jane has the one but not the other. Anyway to get more positive. We had a little talk and I in my usual style, mentioned

Alcoholism is a Disease

1904 Advertisement I have always wondered if alcoholism is a disease . Is this just some sort of idea someone dreamed up years ago as a method to make a buck. You know it could have been that way. People think diseases are either curable or that the symptoms can be controlled to an extent where the person can live pretty normally. The signal sent to alcoholics by the idea that alcoholism is a disease is, "I can be cured by a pill" or "there is hope". And they go off and search for a cure to this mysterious disease...... It may be a disease, though. What is the definition of "disease"? It is an abnormal condition that impairs bodily functions with accompanying symptoms (after Wikipedia). Or here is another definition: An alteration of the state of the body or parts of it interrupting normal function (mine after ThinkExist.com). These are broad definitions. We usually think of diseases as say a virus that infects us and causes illness; the common cold is t